Garmin Key Generator

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I am not a lawyer and don't know how this would be ruled on in a court
of law. I have, what I consider a new computer. It is an older case,
power supply, one old H/D one old DVD burner and a new mother board,
H/D and DVD burner. Old keyboard and mouse also. Microsoft support
helped me to register it online when I changed the parts. In my
opinion I have every right to run the Windows I purchased before the
mother board died.

Was the Microsoft support person helping me steal?

Read the license agreement. It will spell out your rights and what
you can and can't do with the software. As for your computer, maybe
the support person considered your computer to be a repaired and
upgraded computer and not a new one.

Jack j
 
Yes you can legally sell your lic of a Microsoft product as long as it is
removed from the org computer it was installed on.
Read the license agreement, it will tell you if you can sell your
license. I think you will find that you can't transfer the license to
another person or computer.

Jack j
 
Read the license agreement. It will spell out your rights and what you
can and can't do with the software.

Which may or may not be legally enforceable over and above the consumers
rights and contract law. Most EULAs are such convoluted legalese that
they basically boil down to not allowing you do anything their lawyers
would prefer you not to do so they can make more profit. Some of it, if
taken to court, would likely end up being classed as unfair terms and
conditions which could conceivable make the whole contract null and void.
As for your computer, maybe the
support person considered your computer to be a repaired and upgraded
computer and not a new one.

IIRC you can legally buy a new, cheaper, OEM MS Windows with a new mouse
so by definition, so long as you keep that same mouse you are "safe", even
against the MS EULA :-)
(For "mouse", replace with bit of hardware of your choice.)

All of the above is based on what I remember of UK consumer protection
laws. It may be different in other jurisdictions.

IANAL and did not research this just for this post but based it what I
remember, which may wrong.

The value of the information may go down as well as up.

Do not use this as security on your home as you may lose it.
 
Read the license agreement, it will tell you if you can sell your
license. I think you will find that you can't transfer the license to
another person or computer.

And in the UK, at least, that is not a legally enforceable term otherwise
all those shops and internet sites selling "pre-used" software would not
only be out of business, but get raided by the police.
 
Russell Patterson wrote:
Those of you that complain about thievery can maybe answer this
conundrum:
Garmin XT for PDAs is sold by Garmin only on a 2GB micro SD card. They
state on their web site:

"Note: Due to proprietary and security reasons, it is not possible to
transfer your Garmin Mobile XT data to a larger card."

They do not offer it in a larger SD card. So my question is this: If
you purchase the 2GB card and through other means available that
someone has posted on the internet, copy it to a larger SD card, would
that also be stealing?

I would do that in a heartbeat without having any qualms about the
legality if I were working to meet my personal needs and standards of
satisfaction.

Copying my legally owned version of Garmin XT to a larger card to meet
my personal requirements for storing additional data for Garmin XT or
data for other applications that are sharing the card simply lets me get
on with life. And, to some extent, it compensates for either a lack of
foresight on Garmin's part or some level of technical incompetence in
Garmin's software development.

For Garmin to not understand that it is not realistic for users to want
to allow a single card to occupy the only available expansion memory
slot, and thereby block all further use of expanded memory on the
device, is pretty stupid programming on Garmin's part.

And what would be even stupider would be for Garmin to pursue the
legality of a person doing it they owned a legal copy of Garmin XT. I
mean Garmin has made the profit from the sale, and it costs them nothing
to ignore the fact that people are finding work arounds to counter
Garmin's lack of foresight.

Garmin has a long history of being generally ignorant as to how their
products are actually used and do not seem to base any software fixes or
designs on the needs and desires of their customer base. They develop
their products in a communications vacuum that seems to exclude even the
other components of their own organization. And that sucks!

Jack
 
Retired said:
Read the license agreement, it will tell you if you can sell your
license. I think you will find that you can't transfer the license to
another person or computer.

Jack j

Well, that's certainly not true according to Garmin. I had a 76CS when I
bought my 76CSx. I sold my CS to a friend of mine WITH my copy of
mapsource. We calle Garmin, told the rep what we were doing - she said
"no problem, I'll transfer the hardware and software to... xxxxx"

And yes, I bought CN for the 76CSx.

As to the question regarding moving data to a larger micro card. IF you
PAID for the original software and are only using it on the single
intended device then no, I would not consider that theft. If you
give/sell it to someone else or use it on multiple systems, then
obviously yes, it is theft.

I view that in the same light as the topos I bought from Garmin. The doc
says that they have to be used on the CDs. Not true if you know how to
do some simple regedits. So I have them on my harddrive. One copy, one
GPS. Do I view that as theft? No.
 
Retired VIP said:
Read the license agreement, it will tell you if you can sell your
license. I think you will find that you can't transfer the license to
another person or computer.

Jack j

Call Microsoft. I did. That's what they told me.
 
Retired VIP said:
I think that according to the law, it would be stealing. You can't
buy software, only a license to use that software. Microsoft
pioneered this concept and it has been upheld in USofA courts. So if
the publishing house owns the software and they only sell you the
license, they can, through restrictions in the license, dictate where
and how you are licensed to use the software.

A strange concept. If your computer uses Windows, you don't own the
OS. You own a license to use Windows, not the OS itself. You can't
legally sell it or even give it away when you dispose of the computer.
You can't even install it on a replacement computer.

Jack j

I believe it's the law requires you to have your head exam before you harm
others and yourself. Do you know what SD MAP is?
 
I am not a lawyer and don't know how this would be ruled on in a court
of law. I have, what I consider a new computer. It is an older case,
power supply, one old H/D one old DVD burner and a new mother board,
H/D and DVD burner. Old keyboard and mouse also. Microsoft support
helped me to register it online when I changed the parts. In my
opinion I have every right to run the Windows I purchased before the
mother board died.

Was the Microsoft support person helping me steal?

Me? I think Microsoft steals lot of $$$ from me, cuz I have owned many
many many times more Windows than what I am using. Or each laptop comes
with a copy of Windows, and I (my familay) have owned around more/less 20
laptops in the past xx years (we have 5 new laptops at the moment).

And I hope our Retired VIP don't think that the Windows comes with laptop
is free.
 
Retired VIP said:
Read the license agreement. It will spell out your rights and what
you can and can't do with the software. As for your computer, maybe
the support person considered your computer to be a repaired and
upgraded computer and not a new one.

Jack j

I think you need to undo your "retired" and learn to live a normal useful
citizent. You are way out of wax.
 
I believe it's the law requires you to have your head exam before you harm
others and yourself. Do you know what SD MAP is?

Hmmm.... My head was examined just last month, they didn't find
anything.

Look asshole, I didn't write the bill. I didn't pass the bill. I
didn't sign the bill into law and I don't enforce the law. All I'm
doing is telling you what you could learn for yourself if you'd just
make the effort and read the license agreement you had to accept in
order to use the software.

As for an "SD MAP", I don't think there is any such thing. I know
what a Secure Digital card is and I know what a map is but I've never
heard of an "Secure Digital Map". Where would I find one and what
would it look like?

Jack j
 
A strange concept. If your computer uses Windows, you don't own the
OS. You own a license to use Windows, not the OS itself. You can't
legally sell it or even give it away when you dispose of the computer.
You can't even install it on a replacement computer.

I bought a new compaq PC for my wife with Vista installed. Since Vista
sucks (IMO) I erased the hard drive and installed XP with no problems.

I believe this is legal since the old PC was scrapped with a wiped hard
drive. I simply transferred XP to the new one. I am still only using the
XP copy with one PC.
 
ok... am I missing something?? This IS a garmin usenet group isn't it??
Or are my eyes going so bad that I can't distinguish "Microsoft Windows"
from Garmin? ;-)

I believe the OP's question dealt with Garmin not Micro$oft.
 
ok... am I missing something?? This IS a garmin usenet group isn't it??
Or are my eyes going so bad that I can't distinguish "Microsoft Windows"
from Garmin? ;-)

I believe the OP's question dealt with Garmin not Micro$oft.

Sorry. The thread moved into the legality of transferring software from one
device to another.
 
Retired VIP said:
Hmmm.... My head was examined just last month, they didn't find
anything.

Wrong doctor maybe? most of us can see something ain't right with your
head without examining it.
Look asshole, I didn't write the bill. I didn't pass the bill. I
didn't sign the bill into law and I don't enforce the law. All I'm
doing is telling you what you could learn for yourself if you'd just
make the effort and read the license agreement you had to accept in
order to use the software.

You do not need to call or treat yourself as an asshole. We know you
didn't write the bill cuz you ain't very smart, and I don't think you are
smart to be my asshole either (my asshole seems a little smarter than you).

Most of us know exactly what license and license agreements are but you.
Yes, I say "licenses" cuz it isn't just software alone.
As for an "SD MAP", I don't think there is any such thing. I know
what a Secure Digital card is and I know what a map is but I've never
heard of an "Secure Digital Map". Where would I find one and what
would it look like?

There are lot of things you don't know, so pull your head out of the hole
below and learn to be normal.
 
Use this key generator to generate seriel keys for Garmin maps.

http://rapidshare.com/files/170417979/garmin_kgen.exe

This does not have the option for City Nav 2009. I purchased a used
2610 and cannot get an unlock code because the previous owner
registered it and you need to register to get an unlock code. I
cannot locate the previous owner to "unregister".

I understand this is a theft deterrent, but how about legit used
sales?

B
 
Rev said:
This does not have the option for City Nav 2009. I purchased a used
2610 and cannot get an unlock code because the previous owner
registered it and you need to register to get an unlock code. I
cannot locate the previous owner to "unregister".

I understand this is a theft deterrent, but how about legit used
sales?
B,

didn't the previous owner pass on the mygarmin registration account to
you?
If yes, look under "maps" und you should find all the information you
need.
How about a sales contract? No address, phone numer? Address?
Have you considered calling Garmin?

Mike
 
 B,

didn't the previous owner pass on the mygarmin registration account to
you?

No, I did not know it was needed.
If yes, look under "maps" und you should find all the information you
need.
How about a sales contract?

Sales contract? No sales contract when you buy a used item from a
private person normally.

No address, phone numer? Address?
Have you considered calling Garmin?

What other consumer product requires such hoop-jumping?
 
Michael Jaeger said:
B,

didn't the previous owner pass on the mygarmin registration account to
you?
If yes, look under "maps" und you should find all the information you
need.
How about a sales contract? No address, phone numer? Address?
Have you considered calling Garmin?

Mike

Me? because Garmin is very stupid about marketing or their copy protection
sux. So I would say *if* Garmin refuse to improve their supporting,
treating customer nicer I would say go for the warez version instead.

I remember few years ago when I needed to change different Map Area for my
older Street Pilot III (I have 2 128MB Data memory cards) and it took me
awhile to remember the registration Name and Password to be able to activate
the older City Navigator v4.01

Yes, Garmin still had the information (after many years), but they haven't
figured out that customers may not remember after years. BTW, it was so
close to the day I had to drive across 2-3 states, and I was pretty mad at
Garmin.
 
Joel said:
Me? because Garmin is very stupid about marketing or their copy
protection sux. So I would say *if* Garmin refuse to improve their
supporting, treating customer nicer I would say go for the warez
version instead.

sorry to hear that, but Garmin Germany seems to be different somehow. A
week ago I had to call them about some minor problem and their help was
quick and precise.
I remember few years ago when I needed to change different Map Area
for my older Street Pilot III (I have 2 128MB Data memory cards) and
it took me awhile to remember the registration Name and Password to
be able to activate the older City Navigator v4.01
I would not rely on *my* memory - I write it down and keep it in a safe
place :-)
Yes, Garmin still had the information (after many years), but they
haven't figured out that customers may not remember after years.
BTW, it was so close to the day I had to drive across 2-3 states, and
I was pretty mad at Garmin.

I can understand that.

Happy New Year.

Mike
 

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