GPS World: USNO's Fountain: Time at 100 Trillionths of a Second

Discussion in 'General GPS Discussion' started by Sam Wormley, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    Eric wrote:
    Here comes the chronic liar to lend support with no literature
    references and no intelligent commentary.Potter wrote:
    I am pleased to see that Eric Gisse, who claim to be a high
    school grad is interested in "intelligent commentary".Considering that Gisse claims that General Relativity was and
    is essential to the GPS System, hopefully he will start with the
    basic General Relativity equation, and provide references to
    ACTUAL hardware and computer programs that use the equation,
    and show why this cannot be done with simple offsets and factors.Eric wrote:
    It /is/ done with an offset in the frequency of the transmitted
    signal, you stupid ****.hanson wrote:
    Easy, broser, Eric, ... the discussion appeared to have kept you
    up all night into the weee hours of your dark Alaskan morning...
    and made you uptight and angry..... ahahahaha... ahahahaha...But relax now and contemplate that in the GPS shops, in order
    to adjust that "offset in the frequency", the techies do achieve this
    SIMPLY by tweaking a resistor or a transistor here and there,
    step by step, until they score the desired/needed outcome..
    Nobody there needs any Einstein shit... ahahaha... AHAHAHA..
    Eric...
    **** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****
    Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....Take care, young man & carry on... ahahaha... ahahahanson
     
    hanson, Jan 31, 2009
  2. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    [...]
    PS: ... but... Androcles is right in that:
    **** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****
    Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....Eric wrote:
    The designers, specifications, independent experiments,
    and test systems indicate otherwise.hanson wrote:
    Eric, when you finally graduate & you'll get, long last, your BSc,
    and you'll move to get a paying job... then 2 things will happen:
    Your new environment will cure your Einstein Dingleberryism
    and you will come to see that**** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....Eric wrote:
    Why do the designers, specifications, independent experiments,
    and test systems indicate otherwise?hanson wrote:
    .... ahahaha... because the few that so are simply spec-writers,
    fresh out of college... encouraged to do that to learn about
    their company's products and services... The rest are Einstein
    Dingleberries, like Ashby, who hope to get some credit AFTER
    the fact, a typical Jewish MO, familiar from way back to Einstein
    and Meissner, both prodigies of the Zio propaganda machine.Eric, when you finally graduate & you'll get, long last, your BSc,
    and you'll move to get a paying job... then 2 things will happen:
    Your new environment will cure your Einstein Dingleberryism
    and you will come to see that**** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....Good luck for you upcoming graduation. Spring, Summer 09?
    hanson
     
    hanson, Jan 31, 2009
  3. Sam Wormley

    zzbunker Guest

    Well, nobody claimed it was. GPS is mostly there since navy wanks
    know too much about the Washington Beltway, and just about nothing
    about Holograms, Cell Phones, Fiber Optics, Optical Computers,
    Parallel Processors, RISC, AUVs, Cruise Missiles, Kinetic Weapons,
    and Drones.
     
    zzbunker, Feb 1, 2009
  4. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

    There are a multitude of /other/ relatively minor corrections for
    things like atmospheric and ionospheric effects. Nobody here argues
    about them.

    [...]

    See what happens when you actually write an opinion instead of copying
    and pasting an irrelevant one? You actually seem to be intelligent.
     
    Eric Gisse, Feb 1, 2009
  5. Sam Wormley

    Sue... Guest

    AFAIK all but the first SV launched had a
    usable offset. If you think you can convince
    the program to fix what aint broke and try a
    different method yielding a different offset
    I can guarantee some vigorous debate.
    Flattery will get you more links. :eek:)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_image
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_management

    Sue...
     
    Sue..., Feb 1, 2009
  6. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest


    Relativistic Effects on Satellite Clocks
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/frctfrq.png

    Hey, Potter, GTR has directly contributed to a $30B+ GPS industry,
    benefiting people all over the world. Aviation, shipping, asset
    management, survey, mining, agriculture, time dissemination,
    communications networks... and on and on!

    Bluster on, Potter, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! Whatever!
     
    Sam Wormley, Feb 1, 2009
  7. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest



    Relativistic Effects on Satellite Clocks
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/frctfrq.png

    Hey, Potter, GTR has directly contributed to a $30B+ GPS industry,
    benefiting people all over the world. Aviation, shipping, asset
    management, survey, mining, agriculture, time dissemination,
    communications networks... and on and on!

    Bluster on, Potter, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! Whatever!
     
    Sam Wormley, Feb 1, 2009
  8. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    [snipped Sam's willfully ignorant and misleading tripe]hanson wrote:
    Potter should have corrected Sam's ignorant notion & said:Hey, Sam, GTR has NEVER contributed to industry, NOT to GPS,
    NOT to Aviation, NOT to shipping, NOT to asset management,
    NOT to survey, NOT to mining, NOT to agriculture, NOT to time
    dissemination, NOT to communications networks... BUT, GTR
    did & does benefit people, who are Einstein Dingleberries, in
    their mental masturbations, all over the world. . and on and on!
    Bluster on, Sam, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! One
    day you will have an orgasm... ahahaha... ahahahaha....Thanks for the laughs, though, Sam, ahahahaha... ahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  9. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    What Potter fails to recognize that thae the Satellite clocks
    must be synchronized with the ground based clocks. Relativistics
    correction are necessary.

    Relativistic Effects on Satellite Clocks
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/frctfrq.png

    GPS need the relativistic correction to function with any accuracy.
    I suggest Potter take some time to do a bit of self education.
    http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html#Relativity
     
    Sam Wormley, Feb 1, 2009
  10. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    Potter, you fail to recognize that Satellite clocks must be
    synchronized with the ground based clocks. Relativistic
    corrections are necessary.

    Relativistic Effects on Satellite Clocks
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html
    http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/frctfrq.png

    GNSS satellite clocks need the relativistic correction to function with
    any accuracy. I suggest Potter take some time to do a bit of self education.
    http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html#Relativity
     
    Sam Wormley, Feb 1, 2009
  11. Sam Wormley

    Sue... Guest

    Sam,
    You can't be both advocate and scientist.
    Are you up to date on the latest rules
    that restrict lobbyists in the U.S. ?

    Your posts are almost as irritating as
    Tom Potter's but we don't want ya posting
    from a jail cell.

    Sue...

    P.S. If jail is the only place you can find broadband
    and a flat screen, ask Barney for the key so you
    can let yourself out.
    http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87342
     
    Sue..., Feb 1, 2009
  12. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    Dennis Sue, you should put me in your kill file. Regardless of
    your like or dislike of my postings relating to resources about
    relativity in the Global Positioning System, you should know that
    relativistic correction are a necessary and integral part of GPS.
     
    Sam Wormley, Feb 1, 2009
  13. Sam Wormley

    who Guest

    Criticism from you, andro, etc. is like high praise from people of
    good character. I'm quoting you in my CV.
     
    who, Feb 1, 2009
  14. Sam Wormley

    Androcles Guest

    Criticism from you, andro, etc. is like high praise from people of
    good character. I'm quoting you in my CV.
    =======================================

    Don't confuse ahahahanson with me in your curriculum vitae, boy.
    What are you applying for anyway, priest or social worker?
    Whatever it is, it can't be anything scientific - you don't belong.
    Have a good weep over your "sad" and "people like you" or any
    other emotional crap colouring your judgement.

    =======================================
    Hanson, I seldom take it easy on anyone - but you already know that.
     
    Androcles, Feb 1, 2009
  15. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    ---------- AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... -----------

    Androcles, inventor of "=========================" wrote:
    Hanson, I seldom take it easy on anyone - but you already know that.hanson wrote:
    .... but consider the heavy lifting you are doing with/by not
    taking it easy... and consider the heavy burden of karma
    you are heaping upon yourself.... I hope that Sikh poster
    Guru-man Dan Virdy Marzipan
    will come by & administer to you...for your benefit.. Till then:
    you, Andro, are right in that:

    **** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****
    Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....and to boot, thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  16. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    hanson wrote:
    .... but... Andro is right in that:
    **** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****
    Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor > wrote:
    Criticism from you, andro, etc. [1] is like high praise from
    people of good character [2]. I'm quoting you in my CV. [3]hanson wrote:
    ..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
    To [1]: What "Criticism"... There is no criticism. These are
    well meant opinions only, exclusively for your benefit. For
    your misjudgment here, you'll be denied 3 "attaboys"
    To [2]: You just redeemed yourself. You are a man of
    extremely good and classy judgment. For that you
    get 7 "attaboys"
    To [3]: You are bending backwards now and outdoing
    yourself, for which you get anther 8 "attaboys".You are now the proud net-owner of a one "dozattaboy"
    and there is no need for you to ask who@2die4 any longer,
    especially since you have come to the realization that:**** GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ****Not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations....Thanks for the laughs!... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  17. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    [snipped Sam's willfully ignorant and misleading tripe]hanson wrote:
    Potter should have corrected Sam's ignorant notion & said:Hey, Sam, GTR has NEVER contributed to industry, NOT to GPS,
    NOT to Aviation, NOT to shipping, NOT to asset management,
    NOT to survey, NOT to mining, NOT to agriculture, NOT to time
    dissemination, NOT to communications networks... BUT, GTR
    did & does benefit people, who are Einstein Dingleberries, in
    their mental masturbations, all over the world. . and on and on!
    Bluster on, Sam, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! One
    day you will have an orgasm... ahahaha... ahahahaha....Thanks for the laughs, though, Sam, ahahahaha... ahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  18. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    [snipped Sam's willfully ignorant and misleading tripe]hanson wrote:
    Potter should have corrected Sam's ignorant notion & said:Hey, Sam, GTR has NEVER contributed to industry, NOT to GPS,
    NOT to Aviation, NOT to shipping, NOT to asset management,
    NOT to survey, NOT to mining, NOT to agriculture, NOT to time
    dissemination, NOT to communications networks... BUT, GTR
    did & does benefit people, who are Einstein Dingleberries, in
    their mental masturbations, all over the world. . and on and on!
    Bluster on, Sam, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! One
    day you will have an orgasm... ahahaha... ahahahaha....Thanks for the laughs, though, Sam, ahahahaha... ahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  19. Sam Wormley

    hanson Guest

    [snipped Sam's willfully ignorant and misleading tripe]hanson wrote:
    Potter should have corrected Sam's ignorant notion & said:Hey, Sam, GTR has NEVER contributed to industry, NOT to GPS,
    NOT to Aviation, NOT to shipping, NOT to asset management,
    NOT to survey, NOT to mining, NOT to agriculture, NOT to time
    dissemination, NOT to communications networks... BUT, GTR
    did & does benefit people, who are Einstein Dingleberries, in
    their mental masturbations, all over the world. . and on and on!
    Bluster on, Sam, bluster some more! Froth at the mouth! One
    day you will have an orgasm... ahahaha... ahahahaha....Thanks for the laughs, though, Sam, ahahahaha... ahahanson
     
    hanson, Feb 1, 2009
  20. Hmmm... Let’s do a recap of the claim of GR and SR applied in GPS.

    All Einstein Dingleberries came out trumpeting GR and SR’s success on
    GPS. Little did they know how GPS really works. After moortel, a
    zealous Einstein Dingleberry itself, suddenly showed a link of how GPS
    signals are decoded by GPS receivers, it triggered a renaissance in
    scholarly works on the inner workings of GPS. The result enabled true
    scholars to show in very **JUNIOR-HIGH MATHEMATICS** that SR and GR
    need not to be applied for GPS to work.

    There are ones who have trouble with the junior-high mathematics and
    other Einstein Dingleberries who immediately saw a fallacy in their
    religion of SR and GR. The former group includes Sam and Professor
    Roberts, and the latter group includes the so-called professor
    Andersen who attempted to extend his belief in SR and GR with
    mysticism that there is something else very mysterious that SR and GR
    must be applied in order to work. Finally, Professor Roberts caught
    on to the junior-high mathematics and also jumped on the band wagon of
    supporting the so-called professor Andersen’s mysticism. Yes,
    Professor Roberts amplified the mysticism by sealing the nonsense in
    military works. He himself did not work in the defense industry and
    tried to bluff his way into it by creating that Wizard of Oz.

    So, show me implicitly where GR and SR are applied in GPS. I have had
    enough of these lousy application notes written by zealous Einstein
    Dingleberries who did not understand how GPS really works. I also am
    not bluffed by these claims of something mysterious in the sub-system
    of GPS that requires SR and GR to function.

    In the meantime, the Einstein Dingleberries are still championing the
    following Orwellian school of thought:

    ** FAITH IS THEORY
    ** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
    ** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
    ** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
    ** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
    ** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
    ** LYING IS TEACHING

    <shrug>
     
    Koobee Wublee, Feb 2, 2009
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